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Cinder Launches Chef Partnership Program

Cinder, the precision countertop grill that was saved from extinction by Desora, announced today that it is launching a new Chef Partnership Program, which will make Cinder-specific recipes available through the Cinder mobile app and website.

The Chef Partnership Program will feature recipes developed by Michelin starred chef John Critchley, who is Head Chef of Culinary Innovation at Chew (which Spoon readers might remember as the company that was going to — but then decided not to — take over the shuttered PilotWorks location in Brooklyn).

The Cinder is a unique device in the connected kitchen world that combines sous vide and conductive cooking. It’s a big machine that looks like a George Foreman grill on steroids that cooks food with precise temperate control. But unlike a typical sous vide circulator, the Cinder can also ratchet up the hot plates to sear as well.

According to the press announcement, the recipes “are meant to highlight Cinder’s unique Sous-Vide and grilling capabilities.” Critchley’s recipes have been designed exclusively for the Cinder grill, and users can expect a new recipe every week. The company will also be adding recipes from more chefs to the program throughout the year.

Access to these recipes will be free to all existing Cinder customers. Michel Maalouly, Co-Founder and CEO of Desora, told me via email that eventually the “recipes and resources” from the Chef Partnership Program will become a paid subscription service. All existing Cinder customers will be grandfathered into the program free of charge.

As part of today’s announcement, Desora also said that the company has released an all-new Android app for the Cinder that “now guides users through every step of the cooking process, from ingredient selection to food preparation.” An iOS update will arrive in the next few months.

Both Spoon founder Mike Wolf and I have tested the Cinder and found it to cook steaks perfectly. It’s bulky and heavy, and because it’s using precision cooking it’s not a fast way to prepare a protein, but the results are tasty. Now we’ll have to try the new recipes to see how easy they are to prepare.

A Quick Q&A with Desora’s CEO About the Cinder Acquisition

As we reported this morning, the Cinder smart grill was resurrected from the crowdfunded hardware deadpool when Desora announced it had purchased the company. The announcement sparked a bunch of questions, so I followed up with Desora Founder and CEO, Michel Maalouly. Here’s a brief summary of what I learned.

  • Desora bought “every single thing under Cinder,” said Maalouly. That includes hardware, trademarks, and the IP portfolio.
  • Palate Home, parent company of Cinder, never actually filed for bankruptcy. Maalouly said he learned about Cinder shutting down (our October coverage played a part!) and immediately reached out to the previous owner to talk about an acquisition; Palate Home never even got to the filing stage.
  • Units were built and waiting in a factory. Maalouly didn’t give a specific number but said that at the time of the acquisition, there was a factory in China “full of completed products.” Maalouly went out to China to do QA to make sure the units could be sent to Indiegogo backers.
  • “Every single person who backed it and didn’t receive product yet, will receive [a Cinder],” Maalouly confirmed. He couldn’t provide a timeline for when people would receive units, but the company has started the process of reaching out to Indiegogo backers.
  • The company will keep making Cinders. Maalouly said the asset portfolio around Cinder was incredibly rich, and the technology “very valuable.” Desora will keep making Cinders and will use its own Chinese manufacturing experience to improve the supply chain going forward.
  • Desora is also paying attention to the software. Cinder isn’t just hardware: there is also the software side, which the company will continue to support. The Cinder Android app is already in private beta and software going forward will work on legacy units.
  • The company is also expanding the software functionality. Desora has 14 Cinder-powered recipes on its site and the company will be integrating those recipes (and more) into the app.

All this is great, but really, we’re just happy that people who put money down for their Cinders will finally be getting them. And with new units now for sale online, we’ll see if Cinder’s grill technology is really as hot as Maalouly thinks it is.

Cinder Rises From the Ashes, Backers to Get Their Grills Courtesy of Desora

Cinder Grill, the crowdfunded smart countertop cooking device that, errr flamed out last year (read our coverage of the legal saga), appears to be reborn, courtesy of an acquisition by Desora, who announced the news today.

In a pretty rare turn of events, the nearly 1,000 people who backed Cinder on Indiegogo will actually be getting the product they paid for! Most backers of failed hardware project get bupkis, but Desora posted the following on the crowdfunding platform today:

The Cinder Grill and its technologies were acquired and absorbed by Desora. Cinder is now being reintroduced as part of the Desora family of precision grilling and food products, including iKamand, a smart grill controller, ProJoe, Classic III, and Big Joe III, high-caliber grills powered by Desora. All of you who have supported Cinder previously will be receiving your grills as we bring the product to the U.S. market.

The Cinder can also be purchased online now for $429.

Upon hearing the news, we had a few questions, the first of which being, who is Desora? The company hadn’t come across our radar, but it has the aforementioned line of outdoor grill and grill control products including the iKamand smart grill temperature controller, so the Cinder acquisition is on brand for the company. According to Crunchbase, Desora has raised an undisclosed Series A round from Morningside Group, a Shanghai-based “private investment group founded in 1986 by the Chan family of Hong Kong.”

In the press announcement, Desora said it acquired Cinder in November 2018, which is a month after Cinder filed for bankruptcy UPDATE: Following the publication of this article, I learned from Desora’s CEO that his company’s acquisition offer was made before Palate Home actually filed the bankruptcy paperwork.. As we wrote back in October:

Chapter 7 bankruptcy means that Palate Home’s assets will be sold off to pay its creditors. What this means for the future of the technology behind Cinder is unclear. Will the underlying IP be acquired and baked into a different product?

We reached out to Desora to see if we could suss out any further details around the acquisition, the state of manufacturing and the future of the Cinder.

Cinder Grill Flames Out, Files for Bankruptcy After Production and Legal Problems

After a year of manufacturing issues and legal woes, Palate Home, the maker of the Cinder smart grill, is shutting down and filing for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Palate Home Co-Founder and CEO, Eric Norman, posted the news on Indiegogo, where nearly a thousand people had crowdfunded Cinder, giving it more than $550,000 in total.

We kind of saw this coming when we uncovered last month that a San Mateo court had ordered Palate Home to repay a $250,000 convertible note plus interest to Tony Fadell’s Future Shape investment firm. The court issued a summary judgment, which indicated that Palate Home didn’t even provide a defense in the case.

In yesterday’s update, Norman said the lawsuit was the “proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back,” but also said that “the root cause of this is that the company was simply not able to sell enough product, or produce that product consistently and economically.”

Chapter 7 bankruptcy means that Palate Home’s assets will be sold off to pay its creditors. What this means for the future of the technology behind Cinder is unclear. Will the underlying IP be acquired and baked into a different product? Those who used the Cinder (our own Mike Wolf included), really liked the countertop precision cooking device.

This means that the vast majority of those who backed the project will not be getting their Cinder grills, joining the sad chorus of crowdfunding failures which includes HOPii and BrewBot. In previous Indiegogo updates, Norman indicated that there were hundreds of Cinder smart grills in a warehouse in China. The fate of those devices is unclear, or how they will work if the app is no longer being supported.

We’ve reached out to Norman for comment, and will update if we hear more. Here’s the full text of the update he left on Indiegogo yesterday:

Resolution

Dear contributors,

Today I write you with a heavy heart. Our final attempt at negotiating a settlement was not accepted and I have instructed our attorney to file for a Ch. 7 bankruptcy. Unfortunately, this means the company will not be able to ship any more perks. I never expected this to happen, but I do take responsibility for it and I am very sorry this is how things turned out.

We made a generous offer to which the rational response would be to accept, but unfortunately I cannot control the other party. Had that offer been accepted, I believe we would have been able to deliver all perks and continue supporting the product. At this point I have exhausted our options and there is no way to continue operating the business.

While it would be simplest to blame the other party, and I admit that I have felt anger and depression during this trying process, it ultimately comes down to my responsibility as CEO to take in what the world presents and turn it into a viable business. I was unable to make that happen and some promises are left unfulfilled and I feel terrible about that. I’m sure many of you will be angry, and I can’t blame you for that. All I can say is that I am very sorry and I hope that you can accept my apology.

While this lawsuit was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back, the root cause of this is that the company was simply not able to sell enough product, or produce that product consistently and economically. Many people thought that if only the product could be explained better, to more people, it would become a smash success, which is why we launched this campaign. We were so excited at the support and were on track to deliver perks and close out. Along the way, we experienced death by a thousand cuts which ultimately prevented that from happening (production was slower and at lower quality than expected, we sold less than expected, and the lawsuit reduced available resources, etc.).

I will monitor the comments for the rest of the day, so post if you have any questions or suggestions.

Eric

P.S. If you’re an entrepreneur, I recommend being wary of convertible notes. Brad Feld mentions in Venture Deals in passing that there can be problems like this, and it has caused enough difficulty that YC created a funding method that does not mature. If you’re like me and you love building product and making it something people love, then any time spent on things like legal matters is agony – you can avoid any chance of this happening by simply not using this type of funding.

The Spoon Newsletter: Cinder Gets Sued; Food Blockchain Ripens; PicoBrew Ships

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Happy Friday, all! Catherine here. Our team’s hard at work putting the finishing touches on the Smart Kitchen Summit (you have your tickets, right?), but it’s been a busy couple of days for news as well.

First and foremost, a few days ago Chris Albrecht uncovered the story that Palate Home, the company behind the Cinder grill, was ordered by a court to pay $294,736 to Tony Fadell’s investment firm, Future Shape LLC. We’ve been following this smart grill, which delivers sous-vide-like precision cooking via a unique two-sided precision heating surface, for the last couple years. But like so many crowdfunded hardware companies before it, Cinder was hitting manufacturing roadblocks and delaying shipping dates to its backers. Which is why Chris looked into it in the first place — and found much more than he bargained for.

We’re not sure if this is a death knell for Cinder, though it certainly seems that way. Stay tuned for updates.

In positive news, Ripe.io, a company which is working to create the “blockchain for food,” just raised a $2.4 million seed round. Mike Wolf spoke with Raja Ramachandran, the company’s CEO and co-founder on his podcast last year. Here’s how he explained the concept behind his startup:

If a farmer wants to say I harvest strawberries these two days, well, they can say that, but do they say that to everyone? … That’s the beauty of blockchain. It manages the decentralized nature of the food business, so people can post data, they can protect it, they can share it, they can create records with it… In the end for the consumer, they basically get a longer record.

Ripe.io is capitalizing off of two trends: blockchain madness, and people’s desire for increased food transparency. If the company can successfully create the blockchain for food — something that others like Goodr and FoodLogiQ are already playing around with — then consumers can instantly know a plethora of details about their food: where it was produced, when it was harvested, whether it’s organic/GMO, etc. Ramachandran will be at the Smart Kitchen Summit (SKS) discussing blockchain’s potential within the food system, so join us there to hear more.

The ability to trace the origin of your food with 100% accuracy is a good thing, but what if you could bring the farm to you? That’s exactly what Freight Farms, a company which creates “Leafy Green Machines” — that is, climate-controlled vertical farms in shipping containers — is trying to do.

Excited to see new ideas for recreating the future of food and cooking? We announced our Startup Showcase winners this week, so you’ll want to check them out!

Jenn Marston wrote about their new Grown service this week, which helps Freight Farms customers manage temperature, water usage, and other aspects of the indoor farm units so that they can grow produce with super-limited space. Jenn’s optimistic that this tech could allow institutions — like public schools and hospitals — to have access to super-fresh, healthy greens (and more). While smaller scale than Freight Farms, Estonian smart indoor grow system Natufia raised $1.2 million this week.

The PicoBrew Z brewing system

In other news, Mike Wolf covered PicoBrew’s initial shipment of their Z Series, a modular brewing system that lets home beer creators scale up to make 10 gallons per brew. They may have delayed the Kickstarter for their Pico U, but this shipment shows that PicoBrew is still kicking — er, brewing.

Chris also covered NEXT Future Transportation’s new mobile lockers, which are yet another step towards a future in which autonomous vehicles deliver us our groceries and pizza along with our packages. For those who still want a retail experience in the future, however, the convenience store will probably still be there — it just might look different. Read Chris’ piece on Dirty Lemon’s new cashierless, honor system-run pop-up store to see how.

Finally, this week I wrote about all the food I tasted at last week’s inaugural Good Food Conference. It’s a smorgasbord of plant-based products, from vegan sausages to eggs made of mung beans. Check it out.

Smart Kitchen Summit is a mere three and a half weeks away, and it’s shaping up to be our best one yet. Just check out our program and speakers if you don’t believe me. Don’t get left behind — use the discount code NEWSLETTER to get 25% off of tickets (just click here to have the discount applied automatically via Eventbrite).

Have a great weekend!
Catherine

In the 09/14/2018 edition:

John Pleasants Thinks the Oven of the Future is Powered by Light

By Catherine Lamb on Sep 14, 2018 10:02 am
We at the Spoon have long been curious about Brava, the stealthy smart kitchen startup which recently debuted its first product: an oven which uses the power of light to cook food quickly and precisely, with low energy usage. See him at the Smart Kitchen Summit in October.

Walmart Acquires Cornershop, While Jet.com Gets in a New York State of Mind

By Chris Albrecht on Sep 14, 2018 08:50 am
Walmart announced yesterday that it is expanding its digital presence in Latin America with the $225 million acquisition of Cornershop, an online marketplace for on-demand delivery from supermarkets in Mexico and Chile. While that move continued the retail giant’s global spending spree, domestically, the company’s subsidiary Jet.com unveiled a revamped website featuring enhanced grocery delivery options.

Dirty Lemon’s New Pop Up is Part of a Convenience Store Revolution

By Chris Albrecht on Sep 13, 2018 03:48 pm
Dirty Lemon, a startup that sells fancy water infused with ingredients like charcoal, CBD and collagen for more than $10 a pop, made The New York Times today with its new pop-up store in New York that puts you on the honor system when you pay.

Mod Pods! NEXT Future Transportation Announces Mobile Lockers

By Chris Albrecht on Sep 13, 2018 12:19 pm
A lot of transportation in old sci-fi movies was pod-based. People would travel through futuristic cities in quiet, autonomous, sleek pods that picked them up and dropped them off. What those movies missed, and is now becoming a reality, are fleets of pods running around to bring us our packages, restaurant food and groceries.

A Plant-Based Tour of What I Ate at the Good Food Conference

By Catherine Lamb on Sep 13, 2018 09:00 am
From vegan sausages by Beyond Meat to mung bean scrambled eggs from JUST, here’s a culinary tour through all the plant-based foods I tried at the Good Food Conference last week.

FoodShot Global Launches Fund to Land Food Moonshots

By Chris Albrecht on Sep 13, 2018 06:30 am
We know that there is no shortage of food-related accelerators helping get the next generation of startups off the ground. But FoodShot Global, a new investment platform that launched today, doesn’t just want to get startups off the ground: it wants them to aim for the moon.

Court Ordered Cinder Grill Maker to Repay Tony Fadell’s Investment Firm $294,736

By Chris Albrecht on Sep 12, 2018 11:00 am
Palate Home, the company behind the Cinder grill, was ordered by a San Mateo court in August to pay $294,736 to Tony Fadell’s investment firm, Future Shape LLC. The default judgment compels Palate Home to repay a $250,000 loan to Future Shape plus $43,737 in interest as well as $999 in costs.

Impossible Sliders Roll Out at all White Castles Nationwide

By Catherine Lamb on Sep 12, 2018 10:18 am
Today Impossible Foods, the company famous for their plant-based “bleeding” burgers, announced today that it’s expanding its partnership with fast food chain White Castle. The Impossible slider is now available in all of White Castle’s 377 locations, from New York to St. Louis.

PicoBrew Ships Z Series, A Modular Brewing System for Aspiring Craft Brewing Pros

By Michael Wolf on Sep 12, 2018 09:00 am
PicoBrew announced this week that the first Picobrew Z1 has rolled off the production line and made its way to the customer, local food pioneer Ron Zimmerman of the Herbfarm. As you might recall, the Picobrew Z series is PicoBrew’s attempt to fill the gap between the home and pro markets with a modular brewing system.

Freight Farms Unveils Onsite Vertical Farming Service

By Jennifer Marston on Sep 12, 2018 06:00 am
Your average institution, be it schools, company, hospital, or university, typically doesn’t have the space or cash to consider an indoor farming initiative, even if it would mean putting fresher, more local greens into cafeterias and dining halls. That’s an issue Freight Farms looks to solve with the release of its new service Grown.

Court Ordered Cinder Grill Maker to Repay Tony Fadell’s Investment Firm $294,736

Palate Home, the company behind the Cinder grill, was ordered by a San Mateo court in August to pay $294,736 to Tony Fadell’s investment firm, Future Shape LLC. The default judgment compels Palate Home to repay a $250,000 loan to Future Shape plus $43,737 in interest as well as $999 in costs.

We are not lawyers, but from reading the court documents it looks as though on January 14, 2015, Future Shape provided a $250,000 loan in the form of a convertible promissory note to Palate Home. The original $250,000 plus five percent interest came due on July 14, 2016.

We uncovered this judgment working on a story chronicling the troubles Palate Home was having manufacturing and shipping Cinder to its crowdfunding backers. The Cinder is countertop electric appliance that delivered sous-vide like precision cooking without the need for plastic bags and a circulating water bath, plus the ability to sear meats — something sous vide wands can’t do. Our very own Mike Wolf was a big fan of the appliance.

The fact that Future Shape was involved at all must have been a feather in the cap (and money in the bank, evidently) for Palate Home. Future Shape is the investment firm of Tony Fadell, who is famous for helping invent the iPod and for founding Nest Labs. The fact that he was involved at all seems like validation, at least at the time of the loan, that there was something promising in the Cinder.

Indiegogo updates provided by Palate Home Co-Founder and CEO Eric Norman over the past year outline manufacturing issues that his company was experiencing that were, in turn, delaying the shipment of orders to its crowdfunders.

What’s interesting is the timing. The Future Shape convertible note was issued in January of 2015, came due in July 2016, and Palate Home closed its Cinder Indiegogo campaign in June of 2017, raising $552,405 from 800 backers, almost a full year after the loan was due. The lawsuit from Future Shape was brought in April of 2018.

According to Indiegogo updates from Norman:

February 6, 2018 – A factory in China has 500 built Cinders (after delays caused by a faulty cooking plate) ready to ship to California.

April 2, 2018 – Palate Home still has not shipped grills to California. “Consequently,” writes Norman, “We’ve done everything we can to reduce our expenses. As things started to get tight, we reduced headcount and stopped taking any salary.

April 9, 2018 – In a Q&A style post, Norman writes:

What is the status of the grills?
They are built and accepted at the factory. Your grills are part of a larger order and the factory is not willing to release part of the order without payment in full. We’re in a bit of a Catch-22 situation: Selling more grills without shipping yours is (quite reasonably) difficult. At the same time, shipping your grills without the money to pay the factory for the full order would require us to sell more grills or secure a loan. We are exploring a few ways to solve this and ship to you.

That same day, Future Shape filed its complaint against Palate Home for breach of contract. Curious sidenote: according to a service of process court document filed August 23, 2018, a Summons and Complaint was sent to Eric Norman at the address listed for the designated agent on the corporation’s Statement of Information. “According to the process server’s declaration dated April 24, 2018, no company called Palate Home, Inc., is listed at this address. The current company at that location is called Shenzhen Valley Venture and the process server was informed that no one at that location had ever heard of Palate Home, Inc., or Eric [middle name removed by The Spoon] Norman.” To be fair, as you will read, there is a connection between Palate Home and Shenzen Valley, there could be any number of reasons someone at Shenzen didn’t know about Norman, especially depending on whom was interviewed.

July 2, 2018 – Norman says that he had reached an agreement to sell Palate Home to a Buyer that he says would have meant:

  1. All Indiegogo perks to be shipped with a target delivery of 3 months.
  2. Improvements customer service, software and recipe development, and shipping times.
  3. Initial cash payment earmarked to satisfy obligations to vendors.
  4. Royalties on future sales to provide a potential return for Cinder investors.

The problem, he says, is that the deal is being blocked by one of his investors. We should take a moment to recognize that Palate Home has more than one investor. According to Crunchbase (which, to be fair is not always up to date), Palate Home/Cinder has six:

  • Highway 1 (convertible note)
  • Zillionize Angel (seed round)
  • Scrum Ventures (seed)
  • Y Combinator (seed)
  • Angel List (equity crowdfunding)
  • Shenzen Valley Ventures (seed)

    • (Shenzen was mentioned by the process server in the previously mentioned court document)

This doesn’t appear to include the $552,405 raised on Indiegogo. Further, the $376,000 in total funding raised listed in Crunchbase seems to be just from the Angel List funding. Future Shape isn’t listed as an investor, and it doesn’t look like it’s $250,000 convertible note is listed. Doing the math, it looks as though at some point, Palate Home/Cinder had taken in at least $1.17 million, plus whatever money the company received from the remaining investors.

Going back to Norman’s update on July 2, 2018:

While investments in startups are generally considered to be long-term and non-refundable, we used a convertible note with one investor that gave them control over how to proceed at the maturity date. These notes are made to convert into equity at a future funding round. If a convertible note matures before such a funding round, there’s an expectation in Silicon Valley to either extend the maturity date – so much so that most notes give the company the ability to initiate conversion, and recent vehicles like the YC SAFE do away with maturity all together and simply convert at an equity event. While extremely unusual and unexpected, one of our investors asked for repayment at the maturity date. When we were not able to do so, they threatened legal action. This began a chain of problems for the company.

Norman writes that the “investor,” which is presumably Future Shape from the descriptions, agreed to a sale of the company and using that money to repay the loan. But, he writes: “Despite agreeing to this concept, this investor would not execute a written forbearance which killed any chance of moving forward.” Norman also alleges a number of clerical errors made by Future Shape in its filings.

August 5, 2018 – Norman writes “Since we were unable to reach a settlement agreement, we are essentially waiting for the court hearing which happens later this month.”

On August 17, 2018 a default judgment from the Superior Court of California, County of San Mateo (filed August 23), was issued against Palate Home ordering the company to pay $294,736. As we understand it, the default judgment was given because Palate Home basically did not present a defense.

In an update last week, on September 6, Norman wrote “Hello everyone. We are in discussions and I expect to have things wrapped up by the end of this month one way or the other, so if you can please bear us just a little bit longer. I greatly appreciate your patience.”

What exactly went wrong with Cinder? Is it dead dead, or does this lauded device still have a chance? Will Palate Home appeal? We have reached out to both Norman and Future Shape for more information, and will update this post if we hear back.

Going Beyond The Stick: New Options Emerge For Sous Vide In 2018

While the ultra-early sous vide enthusiasts among us started their precision cooking journeys with water ovens like the Sous Vide Supreme, the last few years in home sous vide have been all about “the stick.”

That’s right, as sous vide enters the zeitgeist, immersion circulators from the likes of from Anova, Nomiku, and ChefSteps are the default option for everyone from Modernist Cuisine types to those dipping their toe into the precision heated water for the very first time.

But, as 2017 draws to a close, there are some new sous vide products coming to market that gives consumers an option beyond ‘the stick.’

Here’s my look at some of these new products:

Mellow Smart Sous Vide

After a long delay, the Mellow smart sous vide machine is shipping. This unique-looking cooking machine, which features a cooling system that allows you put your bag inside throughout the day, is now available for general purchase on the company’s website for $399 ($299 through cyber Monday!).

I’ve been testing the Mellow for the last few weeks, and I must say this: If anything, the Mellow is by far the most interesting looking sous vide appliance. That’s because unlike sous vide immersion circulators, with the Mellow you drop your plastic bag into the large transparent tank which allows you to watch your food suspended in water while it cooks. While it may seem strange to say it, watching a ribeye cook in a water bath can be surprisingly mesmerizing.

Here’s a video I took of the Mellow cooking a ribeye:

Like the immersion circulators mentioned above, the Mellow has an app that serves as the primary control interface for the device. The app is pretty solid, with a decent support/FAQ section, a limited selection of cooking guides and a good looking design.

And of course, the built-in chiller for sous vide is a nice benefit for those who want to program a cook for a specific time such as when they get home from work.

All this said, the Mellow has one downside: It’s fairly big. Not only does it have a large footprint, but it’s tall. Really tall. Like most, my storage space is at a premium, and I don’t have the space to store a device with the dimensions of the Mellow.

The Mellow is also a bit more expensive than immersion circulators (again, the company is selling it for $299 through Cyber Monday), but if you’re looking for the latest in sous vide gadgets, you might find the regular price of $399 well worth it.

The Cinder Grill

Want to move beyond the bag? The Cinder Grill might be for you.

The Cinder Grill allows you to cook sous vide without the water or the bags. The device, which looks like the love child of Tesla and the George Foreman Grill, has two precision heating surfaces that allow you to precision cook meat, vegetables or other food and also lets you finish the food with searing functionality.

The two-in-one sous vide and sear capability is an obvious benefit of the Cinder. I also like the idea of cooking without plastic, not so much because I am afraid of toxins within the plastic, but I feel bad about throwing away plastic after every cook.

Like the Mellow, the biggest downside of the Cinder is its size. I’ve been testing it out for a few months, and while it’s become probably one of my favorite ways to cook meat, the device has a really big footprint. And while it does have the benefit of being a dual-tasker (cook and sear), even with multifunction capability I would find it a struggle to stash the Cinder on one of my shelves.

You can see how the Cinder looks in action here:

Like the Mellow, the Cinder also has an app, which allowed me to set time and temperature and also notified me when a cook is finished. But unlike the Mellow (or even more so with sous vide immersion circulators like the ChefSteps), the Cinder app doesn’t go very deep with the cooking content itself, something I am sure the company plans to build out over time.

If you want to get a Cinder Grill, you can order one on their website, but it might take a little while before you see your Cinder. The company has started shipping to some of its backers, but is still in the process of ironing out some production kinks, and likely won’t reach wide availability until early next year.

Still, if you like the idea of precision cooking without the water and plastic, you might want to put in an order. The Cinder costs $499.

Sous Vide Supreme Touch+

And any mention of home sous vide appliances should include the new Sous Vide Supreme Touch+, the latest generation Sous Vide Supreme water bath. And while the idea of precision water baths are hardly new, with this product the company has completely remade their flagship product complete with a touchscreen, a see-through lid, Wi-Fi, an app (of course) and Alexa voice integration.

If you want to get in on the new Sous Vide Supreme Touch+ at a significant discount, you can buy it for $200 off the retail price at $399 on Indiegogo.

Anova Precision Oven

While 2017 has been an interesting year for the oven, 2018 is likely to be even better. One of the products I’m most intrigued about is the Anova Precision Oven. The device, which includes a steam oven, convection, and connectivity, also allow you to sous vide. The device, which was originally slated to ship in 2017, now looks on track for a mid-2018 ship date.

There’s no doubt that immersion circulators are easy to use, but by giving consumers more options to cook sous vide, will open it up to a wider audience.

In short, nowadays sous vide is more than the stick.

You can hear an audio version of this post here on our Daily Spoon podcast (add the Daily Spoon Alexa Skill here to get this podcast on your Echo device):

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Yes, it’s been way tooo long since we’ve done one of these, but Ashley and I catch up on the top smart kitchen and foodtech news of the last few weeks, including:

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We also catch up on all the news coming out of the Smart Kitchen Summit. If you’d like to go to SKS, head on over to the Smart Kitchen Summit website and use the discount code PODCAST and get 20% off of tickets.

Cinder Grill Now Shipping As Precision Cooking Market Heats Up

The long-anticipated Cinder grill is finally making its way to customers.

Earlier this month the company announced on Facebook that production units will be shipping to those who pre-purchased the Cinder. The grill, which uses two aluminum cooking plates with embedded temperature sensing in an enclosed (but not airtight) cooking chamber, has been available for preorder for the past year at a price of $399, $100 below the MSRP of $499. The company expects to have all US preorders delivered by the end of February and Canadian preorders shipped by the end of March.

Shipping product marks the end of a long journey for CEO Eric Norman and Cinder, which have been working on the grill for five years. The company filed patents in 2012 and 2013 for precision cooking techniques, and has been working to bring the product to production ever since.

As the company neared production at the end of last year, they experienced slight production delays due to the complicated nature of the grill, which Norman explained in a recent blog post:

“…we analyzed the build rate using data from a sophisticated measurement system and discovered the rate of production was far below our goal. Factory estimates were off because Cinder is an order of magnitude more complicated than any electric grill ever produced. The accuracy and testing requirements of Cinder are high, requiring different part suppliers to coordinate in unfamiliar ways. This was the cost of going for super high-quality while shooting for a reasonable cost. Sometimes logistics or communication were not smooth, requiring more time and effort than expected.”

Cinder now joins a growing group of companies bringing precision cooking products to the consumer market. At this year’s big tech show in Vegas, leading sous vide circulator company Anova announced a refreshed lineup and showed off a demo model of its precision oven, FirstBuild announced a new version of the Paragon with guided cooking capabilities, while upstart Gourmia continued their aggressive rollout of products.

With all of this action, there’s no doubt precision cooking will have an interesting 2017.

Podcast: From Cars to Precision Cooking: The Story of Cinder

A decade ago, Eric Norman was working on product design at Toyota headquarters in Japan. Now, he’s taken his love of cuisine and food and is applying much of what he learned creating big metal boxes to cart us around to helping create the next generation of cooking devices.

You can find out more about Cinder at www.cindercooks.com