As you might expect, putting a robot into the busy back of house of a fast food restaurant isn’t as easy as just setting it in front of the grill and plugging it in. That’s because restaurants are a complex mix of workflows, equipment and, yes, people, so automating a busy kitchen with robotics requires lots of planning.

For this podcast, we talk with two people building the future of restaurant robots: Shawn Lange, the head of Lab2Fab (a division of Middleby) and David Zito, the CEO of Miso Robotics (the company behind Flippy, the burger flipping robot).

You can listen to the podcast by clicking play below, downloading it directly or listening on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast player. Enjoy!

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